Walking Away

I keep hearing about people who are underwater on their loans, and who might walk away from their homes in order to save money.   I just read this on Yahoo, where four people who are underwater discussed their decisions to stay or not stay in their homes.  It seems a bit disingenuous to me, becuase of the four people they interviewed, they found two who would not walk away from their homes, and two who are considering it, but they didn’t interview anyone who is definitely planning it.  There must be some folks out there who are walking away from their mortgages, so why didn’t they get some of them?

I’ll admit that I haven’t been looking at a lot of articles on this, but the news reports I do see and hear seem to suggest that just because someone is currently underwater, they are likely to walk away from their house.  I question this philosophy, for the simple reason that it is very short sighted.  The housing market always expands and contracts, and there are often periods when people buy at the height of the market, and then find themselves owing more than their place is worth.  If they stick it out, however, the chances that the value of their home will increase again, to more than they owe, is pretty high.

Rather, I suspect that the main factor would be whether people can actually still afford their homes.  If you are in a decent mortgage, and can still afford the payments, it’s probably worth sticking it out and hoping that the market will turn around.  Walking away from your mortgage is going to do a real number to your credit score, so it’s not a decision to be made lightly.   If you’re in a bad mortgage, hopefully you can refinance and get yourself into a better one.  This may be impossible if you’re deeply underwater, but I know that’s one thing the government is trying to do right now, get people to stay in their homes by helping them to refinance their loans.

But if you’re in a truly crappy loan, one that has ballooned or is about to, and you can’t refinance into a better one, or you’ve lost your job and can no longer afford your mortgage, then you’re probably looking at the situation a bit differently.  I know that some mortgage brokers made those crappy mortgages sound pretty good at the time, and said “don’t worry, you can just refinance before the payments go up too high”, which sounds OK, and is OK if it’s true, but if your value has dropped too much, or you’ve lost your job, you’re kind of stuck, and walking away might seem like a pretty attractive option.  And as for that credit score, if you’re in this situation, it may not be that great to begin with, and heck, renting isn’t looking like such a bad idea right now anyway, right?  I still wish we rented sometimes, because we would like to move, and we cannot.  Frustrating.

I know one person who was in this situation…one of our neighbors bought during the real estate boom, got into a loan with adjustable rates that was going up, and took a year out of her steady paying job to try her hand at real estate (bad timing).  I’m not sure if she sold any houses during that year, but I do know she didn’t make as much as she had at her last job, and finally had to go back to office work in order to pay the bills.  She’s underwater, and because of the combination of her low earnings, being single, and being underwater, she was able to renegotiate her loan to a payment she could afford.  She’s surely more in the hole than ever as far as the value of her home, but she’s not considering walking away, because she has faith that eventually, the market will turn around again, and she’ll be in the black.

That’s my real life story.  How about you, and people you know in person?  And what would it take, to make you walk away from your home and mortgage situation?

5 Comments

  • Ted

    I guess if we were so broke, couldn’t get a good refi, couldn’t rent our place out, and just couldn’t, well, make our fiances work, I would consider a kinda sorta walk away: bankruptcy protection.

  • Lalapunci

    We experience this back in ’96. We were upside down in our mortgage. We had to move because we outgrew this house, and there was a meth lab next door. I rented the house out and stuck it out for 10 years. Mean while the principle on the mortgage was reduced a lot. The market turned around and we did come out ahead. I don’t know if this strategy would bode well with this generation.

  • DG

    When you understand the scope of this bubble(in the harder hit areas) you will realize that people who bought at the height of it will take decades to recover. They will be stuck in the same house for 20+ years because their value has fallen 75% and they put no money down. I’ve calculated my own situation and realized that over a 5 year period I would owe $355,000 on my home if I don’t walk, but only owe maybe $100,000 if I walk and rebuy in 5 years. I’m guessing CNN didn’t get many who were actually walking because not many want to have their name mentioned on national news as someone who could afford their mortgage but has decided that paying it is a bad investment. This scenario is pretty widespread in CA where you can walk and the bank has no recourse to come after you. I for one am walking… no running away from my house.

  • Linda Atkins

    I rent in San Francisco. The rent was below market when I moved in ten years ago, and the landlord never raises the rent (I have no idea why), so now it’s REALLY below market. Which is great; I’m lucky and grateful. However, WHEN the day comes that I have to move out of my apartment for whatever reason, I will instantly have to move out of S.F. because renting another place (even now and I’m sure at any time in the future) would cost at LEAST twice as much, and I would guess three times as much for a comparable place. As far as mortgages, a friend of mine in Michigan told me that she owes $120,000 on her place, but it’s now worth only $60,000. I felt bad for her.

  • Cherry

    Well you know I’m underwater by A LOT. Not alot compared to some people in bigger fancier houses but percentage wise it is crazy a lot. Like 50% a lot But I am also lucky that I am still working and can afford my mortgage even though it is now adjusting. I used a mortgage broker whom I trust and he found me a really good loan program. So far, so good but we’ve only just gone adjustable.

    My husband has brought up the idea of walking away which goes against every cell of my being. We are not in a position of desperation yet and that would be the only time I MIGHT even consider such financial suicide. I’ve watched my parent’s get through worse times.

    If/When we can refinance we will and I’m kicking myself for not doing it when I stated the process last year. Back then the $3000 in fee’s to give me a fixed % (aka peace of mind) seemed like a lot. And now I try not to, but I do, kick myself for not just doing it.